"So, we have now seen them cross. And you know, usually when they cross, the low's not immediately in like that's never happened before. I'm not saying it can't, but it's never happened before. Usually the month though, usually the low occurs within about one to three to like one to four months. Okay. So that could be anywhere between say like now and July, August, September, October, who knew, right?"
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… In 2018 they crossed in November and then the market cycle low was about a month later in December. And in 2022, you can see they first crossed in June or sorry, yeah, they first crossed in June, which is kind of where we are right now. Uh only briefly, and then they crossed again in September and then the the market cycle low was in November. So, we have now seen them cross. And you know, usually when they cross, the low's not immediately in like that's never happened before. I'm not saying it can't, but it's never happened before. Usually the month though, usually the low occurs within about one to three to like one to four months. Okay. So that could be anywhere between say like now and July, August, September, October, who knew, right? So I would say somewhere in that ballpark is going to be the market cycle bottom. It's usually not right when they cross. And if we do see it uncross for a while, it would likely be like what it did in 2022 where then they probably cross again as we get in sort of that September, like August, September time frame. But again, is this cadence not re …