"The upside case here I think is you are not going to see the you know 10x 20x type bull markets but you're going to get this asset that's going to continue to compound. My base case is 25 to 30% for the next decade."

… Whereas I know a lot of institutions that are like, "You're telling me there's an asset that I could buy. It's gonna go up 30% a year for a decade. I'm very interested in that." Right? And so the compression of volatility from you know 80 v asset down to 3540 or whatever it is uh is very attractive to large pools of capital. And so the upside case here I think is you are not going to see the you know 10x 20x type bull markets but you're going to get this asset that's going to continue to compound. My base case is 25 to 30% for the next decade. It's not what it did in the past. Better than the stock market, right? I mean, if that's like the index, how many people are able to produce a 25 to 30% return annually for a decade? Not that many people. And so, I think that it's going to do very well. But I always remind people that unhappiness is the gap between expectations and reality. So, gu …